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Theist: Spitzer and Prostitution: Hypocrisy and HumorThe Constructivisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07242149985581771922noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23061971.post-5374795607483964592008-03-28T14:45:00.000-04:002008-03-28T14:45:00.000-04:00Jeff and C:I also don't understand why there isn't...Jeff and C:<BR/>I also don't understand why there isn't more heat over Paterson's misuse of state funds to pay for his mistress. <BR/><BR/>Given the petty rules against everything these days (e.g., speeding and points, drugs, .08 BAC, and tax laws), I would have expected that he should face more criticism.The Objectivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00416501145750028695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23061971.post-73141168754675622222008-03-28T14:43:00.000-04:002008-03-28T14:43:00.000-04:00Dear Jeff and C:Spitzer did resign but my guess is...Dear Jeff and C:<BR/><BR/>Spitzer did resign but my guess is that he was going to get forced out and preferred to leave on his own terms. <BR/><BR/>I'm not sure that the greater hypocrisy of Spitzer makes the moral difference between the two. Clinton ran on cutting middle class taxes and then raised them (see, e.g., social security tax increases) and this didn't warrant his removal.<BR/><BR/>As a side note, I don't think Spitzer violated laws that he put on the books, I think the laws (Mann Act and federal banking laws) were independent of him. im.The Objectivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00416501145750028695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23061971.post-2851571241316403422008-03-28T03:36:00.000-04:002008-03-28T03:36:00.000-04:00Definitely a Franklin quotation.O, I find it inter...Definitely a Franklin quotation.<BR/><BR/>O, I find it interesting that you focus on Democratic Party hypocrisies, especially given that the position you're actually articulating could only find support among Democrats in the two major parties. There's plenty of hypocrisy to go around, given how messed up Republicans tend to be about sex.<BR/><BR/>In any case, Spitzer wasn't kicked out, he resigned. I think it was a result of his recognition that he had immediately forfeited whatever moral authority he had garnered as a populist anti-corporate crusader by violating laws he had helped put on the books. So there's an obvious contrast with Clinton, who never portrayed himself in those terms, that you ignore. People are more willing to forgive the Great Empathizer than the Grand Inquisitor.The Constructivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07242149985581771922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23061971.post-21858446997592181662008-03-27T14:59:00.000-04:002008-03-27T14:59:00.000-04:00I move away from New York state, and this is what ...I move away from New York state, and this is what happens. Apparently you all can't function without me.<BR/><BR/>And things are even more interesting, now that David Paterson has admitted to both extra-martial affairs and cocaine use. In fact, some suggest that Paterson may have used government funds for his rendezvous at the Days Inn. It seems like, rationally, the Democrats are going to have to do something about his actions, given how outraged they were about Spitzer. But, I doubt the Democrats want even more attention on them after what happened.<BR/><BR/>It seems like either way, the credibility of the party is going to take a hit, once again.<BR/><BR/><BR/>"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin<BR/><BR/>(I've also seen this quote attributed to Jefferson, although I'm pretty sure that's an error.)Jeff Satterleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00925977103795446172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23061971.post-47537858572325282152008-03-27T10:02:00.000-04:002008-03-27T10:02:00.000-04:00This can also be seen in the utter failure among t...This can also be seen in the utter failure among the police to respect any rights against search and seizure. <BR/><BR/>Random roadblocks to check for seatbelts, despite the fact that this is obviously a search without probable cause and no relation to one person harming another.<BR/><BR/>There are more police on the road (at $65,000+ first year out in NY) looking for speeders and other largely harmless behavior than is believable. <BR/><BR/>The safety belt and speeding stops are then used as cover for fishing expeditions looking for drugs, guns, or other in themselves harmless behaviors. <BR/><BR/>Our bank accounts are regularly searched by computer programs (this what caught Spitzer) despite a lack of probable cause. <BR/><BR/>Just about everything, e.g., dogs, guns, marriage, and construction now requires a license. As Hugh Lafollette points out, perhaps we should require a license for a couple to have child. <BR/><BR/>I forgot who said something to the effect that those who trade liberty for safety deserve neither. <BR/><BR/>But the sort of sissies who back this zero tolerance for non-Judeo-Christian sex deserve the loss of liberty that his being served them.The Objectivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00416501145750028695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23061971.post-86130119249910621212008-03-27T09:52:00.000-04:002008-03-27T09:52:00.000-04:00What I don't understand is why this country has sw...What I don't understand is why this country has swung so far toward the positions of the most prissy religious housewives.<BR/><BR/>The drug war has played a large role in putting 1 in 100 Americans in jail. The drinking age is 21 and the drunk driving limit is a hair trigger .08. <BR/><BR/>The outrage at prostitution is intense whereas obvious and dangerous illegalities in <BR/><BR/>* the Spitzer Administration's misuse of the police, <BR/><BR/>* the Clinton Administration's misuse of the police, and <BR/><BR/>* the Bush administrations to ignore protections against search and seizure and obvious lying on the massive Medicare expansion <BR/><BR/>get a pass.The Objectivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00416501145750028695noreply@blogger.com