tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23061971.post2526206896593685042..comments2024-03-15T03:16:46.386-04:00Comments on Objectivist v. Constructivist v. Theist: Free Speech at Fredonia StateThe Constructivisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07242149985581771922noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23061971.post-26968333786706178102008-10-30T20:08:00.000-04:002008-10-30T20:08:00.000-04:00Hey, O, I think you'll appreciate the way Michael ...Hey, O, I think you'll appreciate the way Michael Berube responded to a much more open-minded Christian activist <A HREF="http://www.michaelberube.com/index.php/weblog/credo/" REL="nofollow">back in the day</A>.<BR/><BR/>I wonder what you would make of the argument that there are literally thousands of teaching moments that could come out of analyzing the issues raised by the speaker and the protestors, as you have done here, The Theist has done in the campus newspaper, and a philosophy colleague of yours has done on the faculty listserv. The students who did the guest post on my blog that I linked to in an earlier comments and I had a half-hour discussion about some of the issues relevant to literary study that come out of debates over reading the Bible, from authorial intent to hermeneutics, from historical context to political uses. I'm sure you've had similar conversations in and out of your classes.<BR/><BR/>So what do you think of this classic "teaching the conflict" argument?<BR/><BR/>In addition, many eyewitnesses have reported students attempted to engage the speaker in exactly the sort of dialogue you call for, for over an hour and a half. How does this fact affect your take on the protests?The Constructivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07242149985581771922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23061971.post-63317543575482673152008-10-29T17:34:00.000-04:002008-10-29T17:34:00.000-04:00I'd be interested in hearing from The Theist if cl...I'd be interested in hearing from The Theist if claim 1 is as straightforward as you claim it to be, O. At the end of your essay, you seem to suggest it's not.The Constructivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07242149985581771922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23061971.post-5556139277608600712008-10-29T17:33:00.000-04:002008-10-29T17:33:00.000-04:00Further background.Further <A HREF="http://citizense.blogspot.com/2008/10/fredonia-state-protests-intolerance.html" REL="nofollow">background</A>.The Constructivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07242149985581771922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23061971.post-6962191905800117092008-10-29T14:33:00.000-04:002008-10-29T14:33:00.000-04:00Note the Chief of University Police, Anne Burns, d...Note the Chief of University Police, Anne Burns, denied Deferio the right to use a sound-amplification device despite the fact that he was being drowned out by the drumming and chanting. The student behavior may have violated the rights-and-responsibilities code. See the following. <BR/><BR/>"Demonstration or Other Groups or Individual Action<BR/> <BR/>The campus must be open to a free exchange of ideas and individuals and groups have protected Constitutional rights; therefore, all members of the community are expected to conduct dialogues with mutual respect and courtesy. Prohibited are: <BR/> <BR/>Making unnecessary noise or causing noise to be made with objects and instruments, which disturb university functions or community living."The Objectivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00416501145750028695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23061971.post-28270077206933855402008-10-29T14:29:00.000-04:002008-10-29T14:29:00.000-04:00Note that the notion that the campus has at least ...Note that the notion that the campus has at least two top-flight intellects who are committed Christians and would have interesting things to say on this topic. One such person is Dale Tuggy.<BR/><BR/>Instead of drumming and chanting, the students would be better served by having him present on the topic or at least debate another faculty on the following topic: Does God forbid homosexual acts?The Objectivisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00416501145750028695noreply@blogger.com